kahlenberg's formula, given blacks and latinos are dispoportionate's poor in the united states? you'll still get to diversity if you didn't use race and used socioeconomic. >> there was a period in texas when a lower court struck down the consideration of race and texas could only have the top 10% plan. under that plan, the freshman class at u.it. , only had 4.fooich% african americans, dean 11%, 12%, 13% graduation rate from high school. there was a measurable and appreciable gap that led to students on campus feeling racially isolated and feeling like they were spokespeople for their race, that there weren't other students like them. that inhibited the cross-racial interacts and learning from one another that is is the educational goal. texas, having had that experience, decided to add on this additional piece to try to get more benefits from the goal of diversity. >> suarez: quickly, mr. kahlenberg, if abigail fisher prevails, what would face incoming freshman classes over the next several years? >> well, i think the research suggests that if abigail fisher prevails, we will